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Howdy all,

I was pretty excited to see this place come up and wanted to jump aboard as the ball started rolling to help out how or where I can.

If you have questions regarding aviation maintenance, becoming an aircraft mechanic, or anything else along those lines please feel free to ask. I also welcome other mechanics to come on in and answer questions if they desire. I'm a big believer that aviation is a team based industry and half of teamwork is communication. So with that said if you have any questions once again feel free to ask and I will try to answer them to the best of my knowledge and abilities.

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maloneya12

New member
At any time have you missed or (almost) missed a major flaw or something broken that could have led to a major issue. If so how did you deal with it
 

Zeede

Administrator
Staff member
How do you know if a mechanic really knows a particular aircraft, engine or whatever? I'm considering looking into buying my own airplane, but I don't know how to go about finding someone knowledgeable in a particular aircraft model.
 

Pohwaran

New member
How do you know if a mechanic really knows a particular aircraft, engine or whatever? I'm considering looking into buying my own airplane, but I don't know how to go about finding someone knowledgeable in a particular aircraft model.
Getting work done on your aircraft isn't like driving to a mechanics shop with your car and asking if they service Fords or Audi's. Aircraft maintenance is very different, firstly all maintenance (not including owner maintained aircraft) will be done by a AMO (Approved maintenance organization) where the mechanics will trained in accordance with FAA, EASA,Transport Canada regulations and standards where all work must be done with the proper paper trail behind it and in respect to the proper reference, something as little as changing a light bulb must be in writing in the aircraft log book and signed off by the mechanic or technician that completed the work. This means that should you roll into your local AMO in a C172 the mechanics will know the aircraft but they will also not know the aircraft. Work on a aircraft is all done via a aircraft maintenance manual with references to AC 43-13 or the CARs depending on the work, doesn't matter if your working on a Airbus or a Cessna, they all have a Aircraft Maintenance manual. These manuals are even broken down further into part catalogs and wiring diagrams, structures repair manual just to name a few.

One thing you should also know is that aircraft are all different for example you might own a Cessna 172 with a full Garmin G1000 avionics package but the Cessna that is parked right next to you being the exact same model of aircraft as you will be equipped with King navigation and radio systems and vacuum driven gauges. The same plane body? Yes. Same weight and balance? No Same electrical load analysis? No Different plane? Yes

This sentence my very a bit from country to country also depending on the governing aviation authority and the AMO itself: Mechanics have two types of licences here in Canada a M1 and a M2. Mechanics with a M1 are allowed to work on all aircraft that are less then 12,500LBS and non turbojet aircraft. M2 are all aircraft that are not covered under M1 including turbojet aircraft but not including balloons. E licence is for Avionics that can work on your radios, autopilot, navigation systems just to name a few. S is for Structures that specialize in aircraft structures, skins etc. With all these licences laid out, Yes you could get a mechanic that is a M2 working on your Cessna 172 for example and they will do a perfect job just like a mechanic with a M1 licence will do, while all in accordance with the AMM,CMM, SRM. Yes it is true that Mechanics can do some Avionics jobs and Avionics can do some mechanics jobs as long as it falls under elementary maintenance. A mechanic cannot sign off on a autopilot overhaul without holding a E licence as a Avionics tech cannot sign off on a engine overhaul without holding a M licence because at the end of the day should something happen to you while you are flying a investigation will be launched and due to there being a paper trail they would be able to see who did what and when it was done before the event happend and work to solve the problem in the correct manner.

It's not a matter of finding a specific individual that is an expert in said aircraft because at the end of the day all the work that is done and documented. All mechanics let it be Avionics, Maintenance or Structures will be following the manual as it is laid out by the aircraft manufacturer to the T and ensuring all paper work has been completed and properly documented. So rest assured who ever will be working on your aircraft in the future will be doing everything in accordance to a proper reference. You would truly be surprised how much information the maintenance manual tells mechanics.
 

Zeede

Administrator
Staff member
Pohwaran, thank you for the highly detailed answer!

In nearly all of the tips and guides I see about purchasing an aircraft, they mention how important it is to bring someone intimately familiar with a particular model of aircraft. Someone who will know what potential gremlins to really look for and inspect when considering a purchase, ones that are specific to this model.

To clarify my question, how can one tell if an individual really does have this kind of familiarity or not?
 

Pohwaran

New member
Pohwaran, thank you for the highly detailed answer!

In nearly all of the tips and guides I see about purchasing an aircraft, they mention how important it is to bring someone intimately familiar with a particular model of aircraft. Someone who will know what potential gremlins to really look for and inspect when considering a purchase, ones that are specific to this model.

To clarify my question, how can one tell if an individual really does have this kind of familiarity or not?
You are correct, it is best to bring someone that knows the aircraft, you never know what you could find. When it comes to familiarity I would recommend looking at someone that is flying the same make of aircraft you intend to buy, a pilot for example. That way the pilot would be able to tell if something is funky after a test flight or visual inspection, another way would be to get a total inspection of the aircraft done by a third party; A AMO. It would be truly hard to find a mechanic that knows a certain aircraft like the back of their hand unless they fly one of them. My apologies if I can't provide the answer that you are looking for.
 
At any time have you missed or (almost) missed a major flaw or something broken that could have led to a major issue. If so how did you deal with it
I can't really say that I have in all honesty. My work ethic generally does not allow me to make mistakes like that (not saying I can't) because if it's one thing I've done from missing smaller things in the past is now I slow down and take my time to be thorough. At the end of the day it's my signature on the paperwork therefor my responsibility. Will I potentially make a mistake in the future? I hope not but as we used to say in the Army, slow is smooth, smooth is fast. I also make it a point to double check my work and if I don't know of course I ask. Lastly before I start a job I make it a point to sit down and read the AMM on that particular job entirely so I understand what I'm getting into before I do it.
 
What is the coolest plane you have worked on?
Probably the MD11 we've been working for the past month and a half just because you really don't see tri-jets anymore. We even had to drop the #2 engine (center IE, the tail engine) and to say that was an experience was an understatement. Coolest plane in terms of just features and technology I personally have worked on had to be the Embraer 170 when I worked at their MRO. Those things were cool. They had their quirks that made me rage at the engineers who designed it but overall a very cool plane to work on.
 

Scjvz04d

New member
Tomorrow I start my aircraft maintenance school. I visited the hangar once, and in the hangar was an Fokker 100, an F-16A, an Bölkov helicopter and of course a Chessna 172. Have you ever worked with one these? (And did you enjoy working on it?) Do you have any tips for me?

Sorry for my English I am Dutch and not really good in English
 
Tomorrow I start my aircraft maintenance school. I visited the hangar once, and in the hangar was an Fokker 100, an F-16A, an Bölkov helicopter and of course a Chessna 172. Have you ever worked with one these? (And did you enjoy working on it?) Do you have any tips for me?

Sorry for my English I am Dutch and not really good in English
I have not worked on any of these in a professional setting. I did do some work/training on a Cessna 150 and some other general aviation aircraft during the time in which I was going to school to obtain my licenses. As far as tips I cannot give you specific ones as I am unfamiliar with the European process for the certification of mechanics however I imagine there are similarities to the process that is used in the states.

My biggest tip is take time to learn the systems as it will serve you greatly. Once you understand the systems, how they work, and why they work it won't matter too much what aircraft you end up working on (unless it's helicopters or blimps/other oddball things) as they are for the most part, almost all built the same, and generally these days all use the same systems. It's learning the intricacies that takes more time than anything else.

Get as much hands on experience as you can while in school and of course study. The sooner you pass your tests and get your licenses the sooner you can work. Good luck.
 

billymach4

New member
Last time I worked on an aircraft was 1988. Have my A&P.
Theoretical question here. Not serious at all.

Do you think I could get a job in aviation manufacturing or maintenance again.? :eek:
I say plausible.

But I have no need to make that decision. Just sayin
 
Last time I worked on an aircraft was 1988. Have my A&P.
Theoretical question here. Not serious at all.

Do you think I could get a job in aviation manufacturing or maintenance again.? :eek:
I say plausible.

But I have no need to make that decision. Just sayin
I don't see why not but it's not really a good time to be in the industry.
 

Motomax

New member
I see lots of “project planes” on Barnstormers. It doesn’t appear to be economical to pay an A&P to, say, re-cover a Tripacer that’s been in pieces in an Arizona T-hangar for the last 10 years. The majors take their airframes to El Salvador for FAA approved heavy maintenance. Is there a similar facility for GA light piston singles?
 
What’s the difference between Final aircraft assembly and A d check?
In essence very little. In a D check it really depends on what is found that determines exactly what needs to be done. Some aircraft for instance are known to have corrosion issues in various places and may require that the area in question be entirely built from new. It just depends on how much a customer has to spend and what needs to be done. Obviously final aircraft assembly from the factory you're going to have a completely brand new aircraft with 0 time across the board outside of any delivery testing or such things. A D check tends to cost in the million or millions of dollars range so it's pretty intensive. I personally have not done a D check yet but I've done plenty of C and A checks.
 
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